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 Where'd you get the AR-24?
WilsonCQB1911  [Team Member]
3/18/2007 6:01:41 PM
I can't find it in stores or on gunsamerica. What did you pay?
AR-24_Man  [Member]
3/18/2007 6:54:52 PM
I got mine at a gun show, from a dealer (Keith's Sporting Goods, Gresham, OR) for $455. This dealer does not do Internet sales - they don't even have a site.

If I hadn't found that one, I had one lined up online for about $15 less, but that didn't include shipping. I just checked and they're currently out of stock.

Good luck,

-- Sam
WilsonCQB1911  [Team Member]
3/18/2007 7:11:29 PM
Interesting! I didn't realize that they were so economical. I expected a much higher price tag for something made entirely of steel.

How would you compare this to say a Hi-Power? What's the trigger reset like?
AR-24_Man  [Member]
3/18/2007 8:00:21 PM

Originally Posted By WilsonCQB1911:
Interesting! I didn't realize that they were so economical. I expected a much higher price tag for something made entirely of steel.

Not merely steel, but forged steel. I was impressed, too; That's why I bought one. That, and I wanted something new and unique. It also has a forged, crowned barrel, polished feed ramp, and feels for all the world like a hand fitted firearm.

How would you compare this to say a Hi-Power? What's the trigger reset like?

Oddly enough, I own a Hi-Power too, a Browning Silver Chrome 9mm. It's my favorite handgun, as it's the most comfortable all around. I'm on the fence about saying "was", because in all seriousness, this AR feels at least as nice.

I haven't done a side by side comparison at the range yet, but at rest they're nearly identical in dimension and feel. The trigger system is of course completely different, and I do love the SA trigger on the HP. But the AR is not bad for a DA/SA gun. It stacks just a little from SA, and DA is a bit heavy, but no worse than any CZ-75 based gun. The stacking is almost more like the set trigger on my M1A: You feel it slide into place and know that with just a little bit more it'll break. Nice for slow target work.

Reset is fun, as it's real obvious, and finding the sweet spot feels very natural. And recoil is minimal, so there's no work bringing it right back on target ready to go. It's great for double taps.

So far I can't say enough good things about it.

-- Sam
ArmaLite  [Industry Partner]
3/25/2007 8:34:27 PM
There are very few AR-24s out there right now. Give a call to the company (800-336-0184) and we can get you set up for a delivery through a dealer.

Glad you like the guns.
AR-24_Man  [Member]
3/26/2007 1:49:00 PM

Originally Posted By ArmaLite:
There are very few AR-24s out there right now.

Just out of curiosity, why is this? Lack of interest from distributors/dealers/buyers, lack of inventory coming from the manufacturer, or some other reason?

I'm hoping interest in this platform takes off. The more popular it becomes the more likely it'll stick around for a while, ensuring parts availability, aftermarket accessories (holsters, etc), and the like. I personally consider this pistol an improvement over the standard CZ-75, but I've detected a fair amount of skepticism on the boards.

-- Sam

P.S. Edited to add: There are currently a couple of the "K" (Compact) models on GunBroker.
LARRYG  [Team Member]
4/2/2007 11:51:25 PM

Originally Posted By AR-24_Man:

Originally Posted By ArmaLite:
There are very few AR-24s out there right now.

Just out of curiosity, why is this? Lack of interest from distributors/dealers/buyers, lack of inventory coming from the manufacturer, or some other reason?

I'm hoping interest in this platform takes off. The more popular it becomes the more likely it'll stick around for a while, ensuring parts availability, aftermarket accessories (holsters, etc), and the like. I personally consider this pistol an improvement over the standard CZ-75, but I've detected a fair amount of skepticism on the boards.

-- Sam

P.S. Edited to add: There are currently a couple of the "K" (Compact) models on GunBroker.


They are making them as fast as they can. There just haven't been that many out the door yet.
226man  [Member]
4/3/2007 10:09:24 AM
Try www.gunbroker.com
22LR  [Member]
4/7/2007 10:31:09 PM
I seen a couple at the gun shows, but the vendors wanted 450+ for them. i think its too much. I would rather get more CZs for that price.

in any case, i just p/u one of the AR24s. since the price was alot better. I was looking for some other CZs.

If you do some browsing on the various gun auction/selling sites, you will find them. BTW. i would wait for a little more time and see what happens to the price. it will also give other dealers time to get some in in your area.

edit:

also, from the other post that was locked.

i found alot of tooling marks on my AR24. Its no biggie tho. like the mag article said, its a service pistol, although some may try to make it more then that.

the trigger pull on DA is more then any of my CZs. I dont have a trigger gage, but just by handling both you can tell there is a diff. also, you can tell there is some staging too. the trigger reach is a tad shorter on the AR.

I do like the finish on the AR24. Its more like a black park. I wish CZ would do a finish like this instead of the poly coat.

i havent shot it yet, so i will wait.

also, i did try some of the many extra mags i have for my CZ. i found that SOME of the MecGars will fit. the OEM CZs didnt. it wouldnt take much to modify the mags since the mag catch slots are really close to each other. However, im not sure they would work in the CZ after the mods.

ArmaLite  [Industry Partner]
4/10/2007 10:43:26 AM
The reason they're hard to find is that only about one per every 30 dealers in the country has been produced. It's very early in their life cycle and the pistols are in very limited supply.

That'll correct itself as production continues. Demand is definitely picking up as people get a chance to see one of the guns that's out there.


Dobe  [Member]
4/19/2007 10:18:45 PM
I just tuned in, but want to clarify something in my mind. The CZ mags will not work in the AR 24 full size, but vice versa will. Is that correct? And if it is, why would Armalite have it designed this way?

Dobe
ArmaLite  [Industry Partner]
4/20/2007 7:00:22 AM
Hello Dobe.

It is correct that CZ mags won't work in the AR-24.

The AR-24 wasn't specifically designed that way, it's just how it came out.

There may be a misunderstanding here: The AR-24 wasn't designed as a copy of the CZ-75. There's a lot of influence from that fine design (It's probably the #2 most popular design in the world), but the intent was to build an outstanding pistol in its own right. While virtually all descendents of the M1911 use the same trigger mechanism, for instance, the AR-24 mechanism was designed somewhat simpler and with what we consider an improved design than its antecedent. No attempt was made to be interchangeable.

Without access to the original drawings, which are common with the M1911, trying to make parts that'll fit another company's handgun can cause no end of technical trouble. That's because it's easy enough to create the dimensions for a copy, but the tolerance mismatch generally means that not 100% of parts would successfully interchange. That irritates customers and we'd just as soon avoid it. It is possible to do such extended analysis of multiple speimens to succeed, but frankly we've got our Engineering staff working on other projects.

Good question.
Dobe  [Member]
4/20/2007 8:01:28 AM
Thanks

Dobe
SpacemanSpiff  [Member]
4/20/2007 6:00:26 PM

Originally Posted By ArmaLite:
Hello Dobe.

It is correct that CZ mags won't work in the AR-24.

The AR-24 wasn't specifically designed that way, it's just how it came out.

There may be a misunderstanding here: The AR-24 wasn't designed as a copy of the CZ-75. There's a lot of influence from that fine design (It's probably the #2 most popular design in the world), but the intent was to build an outstanding pistol in its own right. While virtually all descendents of the M1911 use the same trigger mechanism, for instance, the AR-24 mechanism was designed somewhat simpler and with what we consider an improved design than its antecedent. No attempt was made to be interchangeable.

Without access to the original drawings, which are common with the M1911, trying to make parts that'll fit another company's handgun can cause no end of technical trouble. That's because it's easy enough to create the dimensions for a copy, but the tolerance mismatch generally means that not 100% of parts would successfully interchange. That irritates customers and we'd just as soon avoid it. It is possible to do such extended analysis of multiple speimens to succeed, but frankly we've got our Engineering staff working on other projects.

Good question.



This doesnt make any sense.

First of all, CZ-75 mags DO work in the AR-24. The feed geometry is the exact same and my personal AR-24 works fine with my CZ mags.

The difference is instead of going with 16 round mags and 14 rounders for the compact, Armalite chose to use 15 and 13 rounders, so their mags are shorter than the CZ mags. I dont think it takes any "Engineering staff" to figure out that all you have to do to get 100% mag compatability is lengthen the mag bodies by 5mm.

Dobe  [Member]
4/20/2007 6:26:12 PM
Well, I am surprised to say the least. And I want to start this off by saying I have been wrong many a times before now, and may very well be wrong again. I read in one of the gun magizine write-ups that the new AR-24 would not accept a CZ mag, but the CZ would accept the AR-24. I liked the looks of the AR-24 so much that I went to my local pusher (I mean gun dealer), and asked to see the one that they had in the case. I asked about the CZ mag compatablility, and we tried it with that particular AR-24. It would not lock. That was the only thing I saw that I did not like about the AR_24, granted I still haven't fired one.
ksu_nutzer  [Member]
4/22/2007 8:19:29 AM
I fondled the AR24 and the COmpact AR24 at the NRA Convention last weekend. I really liked the feel and the compact with the "mag extention" felt real nice. Plus, the Armalite people were also very friendly. Just wish I could have shot one a couple of times. It is on my "to get list".
el_feroz  [Member]
4/24/2007 3:42:07 PM

Originally Posted By SpacemanSpiff:

Originally Posted By ArmaLite:
Hello Dobe.

It is correct that CZ mags won't work in the AR-24.

The AR-24 wasn't specifically designed that way, it's just how it came out.

There may be a misunderstanding here: The AR-24 wasn't designed as a copy of the CZ-75. There's a lot of influence from that fine design (It's probably the #2 most popular design in the world), but the intent was to build an outstanding pistol in its own right. While virtually all descendents of the M1911 use the same trigger mechanism, for instance, the AR-24 mechanism was designed somewhat simpler and with what we consider an improved design than its antecedent. No attempt was made to be interchangeable.

Without access to the original drawings, which are common with the M1911, trying to make parts that'll fit another company's handgun can cause no end of technical trouble. That's because it's easy enough to create the dimensions for a copy, but the tolerance mismatch generally means that not 100% of parts would successfully interchange. That irritates customers and we'd just as soon avoid it. It is possible to do such extended analysis of multiple speimens to succeed, but frankly we've got our Engineering staff working on other projects.

Good question.



This doesnt make any sense.

First of all, CZ-75 mags DO work in the AR-24. The feed geometry is the exact same and my personal AR-24 works fine with my CZ mags.

The difference is instead of going with 16 round mags and 14 rounders for the compact, Armalite chose to use 15 and 13 rounders, so their mags are shorter than the CZ mags. I dont think it takes any "Engineering staff" to figure out that all you have to do to get 100% mag compatability is lengthen the mag bodies by 5mm.



Thanks for the input, i would much rather hear it from you than the factory.
SpacemanSpiff  [Member]
4/25/2007 10:59:31 AM

Originally Posted By Dobe:
I read in one of the gun magizine write-ups that the new AR-24 would not accept a CZ mag, but the CZ would accept the AR-24. I liked the looks of the AR-24 so much that I went to my local pusher (I mean gun dealer), and asked to see the one that they had in the case. I asked about the CZ mag compatablility, and we tried it with that particular AR-24. It would not lock.



Interesting. With my AR-24 COMPACT, the CZ compact and standard CZ mags work fine because they are both longer than the AR-24k mag.

It is possible that the reverse is true for the fullsize as I have not tried that combo myself yet. One thing is that the floor plates on the AR-24 are plastic and are much thicker than the steel floor plates on the CZ, so that adds complication as well. When I get home from work, I will see if a steel CZ floor plate will fit the AR mag.

ArmaLite  [Industry Partner]
7/10/2007 12:09:11 AM
The AR-24k uses a polymer floorplate, but the floorplate of the full sized guns are steel.

And by the way, we have a supply of mags on hand last I knew.