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57Strat  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 9:59:26 AM
What are the details of the below arrest charges that you can determine based on the below information?

Charges:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST


EDITED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RETARDS OF GD: THIS DOES NOT INVOLVE ME.
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MFP_4073  [Member]
1/1/2012 10:03:09 AM

I'm guessing 'misdemeanor distribution / possession' around school property.

I'm not LE though, just a guess.

4073
gopeterson  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 10:04:03 AM
Manufacture, distrribution, possession?
TooBigToFail  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 10:04:56 AM
Minor or Misdemeanor drug possession?
DevilPig  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 10:05:25 AM
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
What are the details of the below arrest charges that you can determine based on the below information?

Charges:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST


Different states and jurisdictions have different jargon for charges but I'm gonna take a stab at it:

Manufacture (make), Deliver (sell), or Procure (buy) drugs within 1000 ft of a school
Manufacture, Deliver, or Procure a drug that falls in schedule 1, 2, or 3....1st offense

ETA: the P could also be possess as opposed to procure
57Strat  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 10:24:55 AM
Originally Posted By DevilPig:
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
What are the details of the below arrest charges that you can determine based on the below information?

Charges:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST


Different states and jurisdictions have different jargon for charges but I'm gonna take a stab at it:

Manufacture (make), Deliver (sell), or Procure (buy) drugs within 1000 ft of a school
Manufacture, Deliver, or Procure a drug that falls in schedule 1, 2, or 3....1st offense




That makes sense. Thank you. Are these felony charges?
buckshot_jim  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 10:28:28 AM
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
Originally Posted By DevilPig:
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
What are the details of the below arrest charges that you can determine based on the below information?

Charges:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST


Different states and jurisdictions have different jargon for charges but I'm gonna take a stab at it:

Manufacture (make), Deliver (sell), or Procure (buy) drugs within 1000 ft of a school
Manufacture, Deliver, or Procure a drug that falls in schedule 1, 2, or 3....1st offense






That makes sense. Thank you. Are these felony charges?


Yes, felonies
rollingtrouble13  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 10:28:59 AM
Usually the drugs near a school is an enhanced charge that is a felony.
Billy-the-Man  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 10:32:48 AM
New Year's Eve related?
DevilPig  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 10:34:52 AM
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
Originally Posted By DevilPig:
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
What are the details of the below arrest charges that you can determine based on the below information?

Charges:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST


Different states and jurisdictions have different jargon for charges but I'm gonna take a stab at it:

Manufacture (make), Deliver (sell), or Procure (buy) drugs within 1000 ft of a school
Manufacture, Deliver, or Procure a drug that falls in schedule 1, 2, or 3....1st offense




That makes sense. Thank you. Are these felony charges?


Not sure. Both have the potential to be depending on the state.
Plumbata  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 10:37:40 AM
Pretty sure in Texas that those are felonies. I don't think that school thing applies to misdemeanors.
Sleeper396  [Member]
1/1/2012 10:41:43 AM
Hey 57 what are you going to have to sell because of this, I call dibs if its good stuff. Honestly I look at initial charges as a worse case scenario. If you spend the money on a good attorney they should be able to get it all knocked down. If this involves you personally I hate it for you, I hope you can beat it. I have never faced a situation like this and I do not envy you at all. Now if this is your daughter's boyfriend we are talking about, tell her to eject.
SnowboundinNH  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 10:42:26 AM
It means UR Fooked!
6winchester2  [Life Member]
1/1/2012 10:49:47 AM
Ahem....

...and would you care to inform the hive as to exactly WHY you are asking what these charges mean, good Sir?

Enquiring minds like to know!

geekz0r  [Member]
1/1/2012 10:54:06 AM
Charges:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST


Some drugs are worse to trade, made or possess illegally than others.

According to Texas the classes are defined as follows:

Schedule I — drugs with a high abuse risk. These drugs have NO safe, accepted medical use in the United States. Some examples are heroin, marijuana, LSD, PCP, and crack cocaine.

Schedule II — drugs with a high abuse risk, but also have safe and accepted medical uses in the United States. These drugs can cause severe psychological or physical dependence. Example - morphine, Ritalin

Schedule III, IV, or V — drugs with an abuse risk less than Schedule II. These drugs also have safe and accepted medical uses in the United States. Schedule III, IV, or V drugs include those containing smaller amounts of certain narcotic and non-narcotic drugs, anti-anxiety drugs, tranquilizers, sedatives, stimulants, and non-narcotic analgesics. Examples - Tylenol #3, Vicoden etc.


The kicker however is the first charge - MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL . It won't matter what class of drug you have - even a class V drug - if you're caught making, distributing, or possessing it illegally within 1000 feet of a school... you're fucked.


SleeperShooter  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 10:58:57 AM
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
What are the details of the below arrest charges that you can determine based on the below information?

Charges:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST


What's the story behind it???
They're not good charges to have and from the looks of it, this was the offenders first arrest in the State for those charges. Chances of PMITA time is pretty high, depending on quanity and type of drug.


But again, what's the story behind 'em?? Hope it's not you!!!
-SS
fla556guy  [Member]
1/1/2012 11:04:44 AM
could be misdemeanor drug possession around school, but with the second being schedule 1,2,3, I would go with felonies and what the above said.
aquaman67  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 11:13:10 AM
It means someone needs to prepare their anus for impending prison lovin'.
57Strat  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 11:19:43 AM
Originally Posted By Sleeper396:
Hey 57 what are you going to have to sell because of this, I call dibs if its good stuff. Honestly I look at initial charges as a worse case scenario. If you spend the money on a good attorney they should be able to get it all knocked down. If this involves you personally I hate it for you, I hope you can beat it. I have never faced a situation like this and I do not envy you at all. Now if this is your daughter's boyfriend we are talking about, tell her to eject.


This does not involve me. Jeeeeeez!
SleeperShooter  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 11:20:54 AM
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
Originally Posted By Sleeper396:
Hey 57 what are you going to have to sell because of this, I call dibs if its good stuff. Honestly I look at initial charges as a worse case scenario. If you spend the money on a good attorney they should be able to get it all knocked down. If this involves you personally I hate it for you, I hope you can beat it. I have never faced a situation like this and I do not envy you at all. Now if this is your daughter's boyfriend we are talking about, tell her to eject.


This does not involve me. Jeeeeeez!


That's what she said!






Just making sure it wasn't you. You never know with some of the chuckleheads on this site.
-SS
OiRogers  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 11:21:16 AM
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
Originally Posted By DevilPig:
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
What are the details of the below arrest charges that you can determine based on the below information?

Charges:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST


Different states and jurisdictions have different jargon for charges but I'm gonna take a stab at it:

Manufacture (make), Deliver (sell), or Procure (buy) drugs within 1000 ft of a school
Manufacture, Deliver, or Procure a drug that falls in schedule 1, 2, or 3....1st offense




That makes sense. Thank you. Are these felony charges?


In Oh, yes those would be Felony class... That " within 100ft of a school " part is magical.

jjc155  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 12:01:42 PM
Originally Posted By gopeterson:
Manufacture, distrribution, possession?


likely this.

In Michigan (and many other states) there are enhancements for Possesion with intent to distribute/sale with in so many feet of a school (Michigan is 1000ft).

The other one with the schedules makes me think that is it a felony charge.

J-
oulufinn  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 12:07:19 PM
Maybe cough syrup, or sinus medicine?
33shooter  [Member]
1/1/2012 12:19:45 PM
The "1st" part is related to the degree, which should make it a 1st degree felony if I read that right. And it is possess, not procure.

Both huge charges. What county and any prior convictions or arrests will play a big role in the disposition of the case.
WildApple  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 12:54:23 PM
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
57Strat  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 2:29:49 PM
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST



I am wondering if "SCH I,II,III" means they were charged with drugs in all three schedules or just one of the three schedules?


here is the schedule list from the DEA webpage:


http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/

Schedule I Controlled Substances
Substances in this schedule have a high potential for abuse, have no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, and there is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision. Some examples of substances listed in schedule I are: heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), peyote, methaqualone, and 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (“ecstasy”).

Schedule II Controlled Substances
Substances in this schedule have a high potential for abuse which may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence.
Examples of single entity schedule II narcotics include morphine and opium. Other schedule II narcotic substances and their common name brand products include: hydromorphone (Dilaudid®), methadone (Dolophine®), meperidine (Demerol®), oxycodone (OxyContin®), and fentanyl (Sublimaze® or Duragesic®).
Examples of schedule II stimulants include: amphetamine (Dexedrine®, Adderall®), methamphetamine (Desoxyn®), and methylphenidate (Ritalin®). Other schedule II substances include: cocaine, amobarbital, glutethimide, and pentobarbital.

Schedule III Controlled Substances
Substances in this schedule have a potential for abuse less than substances in schedules I or II and abuse may lead to moderate or low physical dependence or high psychological dependence.
Examples of schedule III narcotics include combination products containing less than 15 milligrams of hydrocodone per dosage unit (Vicodin®) and products containing not more than 90 milligrams of codeine per dosage unit (Tylenol with codeine®). Also included are buprenorphine products (Suboxone® and Subutex®) used to treat opioid addiction.
Examples of schedule III non-narcotics include benzphetamine (Didrex®), phendimetrazine, ketamine, and anabolic steroids such as oxandrolone (Oxandrin®).
nightstalker  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 2:33:20 PM
Originally Posted By buckshot_jim:
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
Originally Posted By DevilPig:
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
What are the details of the below arrest charges that you can determine based on the below information?

Charges:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST


Different states and jurisdictions have different jargon for charges but I'm gonna take a stab at it:

Manufacture (make), Deliver (sell), or Procure (buy) drugs within 1000 ft of a school
Manufacture, Deliver, or Procure a drug that falls in schedule 1, 2, or 3....1st offense






That makes sense. Thank you. Are these felony charges?


Yes, felonies


They usually charge as high as possible, then when more facts are known adjust. Sometimes it's just so bail is substantial and flight less likely.
mhall8811  [Member]
1/1/2012 2:33:36 PM
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
What are the details of the below arrest charges that you can determine based on the below information?

Charges:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL forced sodomy of an oppossum
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST no "reach around" during said sodomy


EDITED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RETARDS OF GD: THIS DOES NOT INVOLVE ME.


33shooter  [Member]
1/1/2012 3:06:15 PM
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST



I am wondering if "SCH I,II,III" means they were charged with drugs in all three schedules or just one of the three schedules?


here is the schedule list from the DEA webpage:


http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/

Schedule I Controlled Substances
Substances in this schedule have a high potential for abuse, have no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, and there is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision. Some examples of substances listed in schedule I are: heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), peyote, methaqualone, and 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (“ecstasy”).

Schedule II Controlled Substances
Substances in this schedule have a high potential for abuse which may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence.
Examples of single entity schedule II narcotics include morphine and opium. Other schedule II narcotic substances and their common name brand products include: hydromorphone (Dilaudid®), methadone (Dolophine®), meperidine (Demerol®), oxycodone (OxyContin®), and fentanyl (Sublimaze® or Duragesic®).
Examples of schedule II stimulants include: amphetamine (Dexedrine®, Adderall®), methamphetamine (Desoxyn®), and methylphenidate (Ritalin®). Other schedule II substances include: cocaine, amobarbital, glutethimide, and pentobarbital.

Schedule III Controlled Substances
Substances in this schedule have a potential for abuse less than substances in schedules I or II and abuse may lead to moderate or low physical dependence or high psychological dependence.
Examples of schedule III narcotics include combination products containing less than 15 milligrams of hydrocodone per dosage unit (Vicodin®) and products containing not more than 90 milligrams of codeine per dosage unit (Tylenol with codeine®). Also included are buprenorphine products (Suboxone® and Subutex®) used to treat opioid addiction.
Examples of schedule III non-narcotics include benzphetamine (Didrex®), phendimetrazine, ketamine, and anabolic steroids such as oxandrolone (Oxandrin®).


With it saying "other" it makes me think it could be a prescription drug and that title is just generic.

ETA: Maybe someone trying to sell adderall or Vicodin or Xanax
DisplayName  [Member]
1/1/2012 4:06:15 PM
Originally Posted By geekz0r:
Charges:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST


Some drugs are worse to trade, made or possess illegally than others.

According to Texas the classes are defined as follows:

Schedule I — drugs with a high abuse risk. These drugs have NO safe, accepted medical use in the United States. Some examples are heroin, marijuana, LSD, PCP, and crack cocaine.

Schedule II — drugs with a high abuse risk, but also have safe and accepted medical uses in the United States. These drugs can cause severe psychological or physical dependence. Example - morphine, Ritalin

Schedule III, IV, or V — drugs with an abuse risk less than Schedule II. These drugs also have safe and accepted medical uses in the United States. Schedule III, IV, or V drugs include those containing smaller amounts of certain narcotic and non-narcotic drugs, anti-anxiety drugs, tranquilizers, sedatives, stimulants, and non-narcotic analgesics. Examples - Tylenol #3, Vicoden etc.


The kicker however is the first charge - MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL . It won't matter what class of drug you have - even a class V drug - if you're caught making, distributing, or possessing it illegally within 1000 feet of a school... you're fucked.


The part in red, not really. I've seen that dismissed in a plea bargain. Someone needs a lawyer. Look at this, it was for cocaine.

"Sentencing Order issued for December 22, 2011. Defendant sentenced to the Indiana Department of Corrections for 4 years on Count I, a C felony and 4 years on Count II, a C felony. 1 year executed at TCCC with the last 3 years suspended on probation. Defendant entitled to 87 days credit with good time. Defendant to pay costs. Remaining counts dismissed. Abstract of Judgment issued. Copies per order."

So that is 93 days in the county jail. I've seen people get a lot worse for a lot less.

Some of the people who posted on this thread are assholes, you know who you are. And to u a mighty FUCK YOU>

DevilPig  [Team Member]
1/1/2012 7:35:48 PM
Originally Posted By DisplayName:
Originally Posted By geekz0r:
Charges:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST


Some drugs are worse to trade, made or possess illegally than others.

According to Texas the classes are defined as follows:

Schedule I — drugs with a high abuse risk. These drugs have NO safe, accepted medical use in the United States. Some examples are heroin, marijuana, LSD, PCP, and crack cocaine.

Schedule II — drugs with a high abuse risk, but also have safe and accepted medical uses in the United States. These drugs can cause severe psychological or physical dependence. Example - morphine, Ritalin

Schedule III, IV, or V — drugs with an abuse risk less than Schedule II. These drugs also have safe and accepted medical uses in the United States. Schedule III, IV, or V drugs include those containing smaller amounts of certain narcotic and non-narcotic drugs, anti-anxiety drugs, tranquilizers, sedatives, stimulants, and non-narcotic analgesics. Examples - Tylenol #3, Vicoden etc.


The kicker however is the first charge - MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL . It won't matter what class of drug you have - even a class V drug - if you're caught making, distributing, or possessing it illegally within 1000 feet of a school... you're fucked.


The part in red, not really. I've seen that dismissed in a plea bargain. Someone needs a lawyer. Look at this, it was for cocaine.

"Sentencing Order issued for December 22, 2011. Defendant sentenced to the Indiana Department of Corrections for 4 years on Count I, a C felony and 4 years on Count II, a C felony. 1 year executed at TCCC with the last 3 years suspended on probation. Defendant entitled to 87 days credit with good time. Defendant to pay costs. Remaining counts dismissed. Abstract of Judgment issued. Copies per order."

So that is 93 days in the county jail. I've seen people get a lot worse for a lot less.

Some of the people who posted on this thread are assholes, you know who you are. And to u a mighty FUCK YOU>



33shooter  [Member]
1/1/2012 8:16:28 PM
Originally Posted By DisplayName:
Originally Posted By geekz0r:
Charges:
MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL
MDP OTHER IN SCH I,II,III 1ST


Some drugs are worse to trade, made or possess illegally than others.

According to Texas the classes are defined as follows:

Schedule I — drugs with a high abuse risk. These drugs have NO safe, accepted medical use in the United States. Some examples are heroin, marijuana, LSD, PCP, and crack cocaine.

Schedule II — drugs with a high abuse risk, but also have safe and accepted medical uses in the United States. These drugs can cause severe psychological or physical dependence. Example - morphine, Ritalin

Schedule III, IV, or V — drugs with an abuse risk less than Schedule II. These drugs also have safe and accepted medical uses in the United States. Schedule III, IV, or V drugs include those containing smaller amounts of certain narcotic and non-narcotic drugs, anti-anxiety drugs, tranquilizers, sedatives, stimulants, and non-narcotic analgesics. Examples - Tylenol #3, Vicoden etc.


The kicker however is the first charge - MDP DRUGS NEAR SCHOOL . It won't matter what class of drug you have - even a class V drug - if you're caught making, distributing, or possessing it illegally within 1000 feet of a school... you're fucked.


The part in red, not really. I've seen that dismissed in a plea bargain. Someone needs a lawyer. Look at this, it was for cocaine.

"Sentencing Order issued for December 22, 2011. Defendant sentenced to the Indiana Department of Corrections for 4 years on Count I, a C felony and 4 years on Count II, a C felony. 1 year executed at TCCC with the last 3 years suspended on probation. Defendant entitled to 87 days credit with good time. Defendant to pay costs. Remaining counts dismissed. Abstract of Judgment issued. Copies per order."

So that is 93 days in the county jail. I've seen people get a lot worse for a lot less.

Some of the people who posted on this thread are assholes, you know who you are. And to u a mighty FUCK YOU>



Who specifically are you calling an asshole?

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